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Make Smith an offer he can't refuse

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Think about what we would look like if we could steal Smith away from Ohio State.

Make him an offer that would make him the highest paid player in college football.

Team him up with DJ Lagway and go ahead and make our reservations in the playoffs.
 

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Interesting line in an article I read recently ...
In a pure money battle, the Big Ten is better positioned than the SEC and other conferences.
I recommend reading it.
Apparently, there are more resources in the Big 10 schools than the SEC schools - from more TV revenue, more big money donors, and bigger stadiums.
If the current no-rules spending on players continues, expect more CFP titles from Big 10 schools.
OSU bought the 2023 SEC freshman of the year.
Notice that some of the top HS players from the south are now going to Big 10 schools - OSU, Michigan, Oregon - simply because they have more money to spend.
Pay attention to the transfer portal, and I will bet more and more top players from the SEC will be transferring to the Big 10.
Expecting the reverse (Big10->SEC) is not likely to happen, in the current environment.
 

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I don't think Smith to OSU was all about money, maybe not even mostly about money. They are WRU for sure. They have great QBs. The guy they have for next year (Sayin) is probably as good or better than DJ albeit he hasn't played yet. Academics are a joke so that's a plus for a lot of kids.
 

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I don't think Smith to OSU was all about money, maybe not even mostly about money. They are WRU for sure. They have great QBs. The guy they have for next year (Sayin) is probably as good or better than DJ albeit he hasn't played yet. Academics are a joke so that's a plus for a lot of kids.
Sayin is better? Without playing yet? I'm just sayin, you need to evaluate talent if that is what you really believe.
 

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Agreed. The Big Ten has improved their talent level and that's a trend not a blip on the radar. It's mostly at the top though, at the school's that care like Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.

I still think the SEC cares more from top to bottom. The talent gap has closed between Big Ten and SEC. We might not win 16 national titles in 18 years or whatever that streak was but we will get our fair share.
 

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Agreed. The Big Ten has improved their talent level and that's a trend not a blip on the radar. It's mostly at the top though, at the school's that care like Oregon, Michigan, Ohio State and Penn State.
It's hard to say what will happen, since the "rules" keep changing to the point that it seems now there are no rules.
The House settlement still needs to be approved, but it also doesn't guarantee that there will be no more court cases.
At the moment, talent acquisition seems to be tied to how much money a school is able to spend, and the Big 10 schools have more resources than the SEC.
Some information from that article, which opened my eyes quite a bit ...
1. TV revenue is higher for Big 10 schools ...
... Big Ten schools will be making an average of $100 million annually in media rights alone when the current deal expires in 2030. The SEC is expected to top out at $75 million.
2. There seem to be more wealth with ties to the Big 10 than the SEC.
Meanwhile, the state of Alabama, which has dominated the sport in many ways, doesn't have anyone on the Forbes 400 list. Auburn trustee and avid fan Jimmy Rane is the richest Alabama resident with a net worth of $1.5 billion, according to Forbes.
I took a look at the Forbes list, and there were a decent number of people who reside in Florida.
But it is unclear if they actually have ties to UF.
As an example, #385 is Michael Jordan, and he went to UNC.
Also, if you think that this affects only a handful of schools ...
...Google co-founder Sergey Brin is the world's seventh-richest man at $152 billion. Brin got his undergraduate degree at Maryland as his father, Michael, was a mathematics professor at the school. Like his Google cohort Page, Brin hasn't shown much affinity for college athletics but he has the kind of wealth that could transform his alma mater's prospects.
Again, the point is that the resources are there at a Big10 school that has not been known as a football power, but has the potential to change.
Such resources don't seem to be available to SEC schools, based on the article.
3. Big 10 schools have generally a larger student population which results in larger alumni fan base, which in turn results in more money.
Big Ten schools are huge (66,901 students at Ohio State) with expansive alumni networks from states that are generally more populous and wealthy than SEC states.
4. Stadiums at Big 10 schools are also in general larger, generating more game revenue.

Time will tell if the Big 10 will continue with the current trend, and I am basing all this on a couple of articles, and I am usually critical of what passes as journalism with it's selective ignorance.
But they have presented some interesting arguments describing the current state of college football.
 

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Here is the main factor; the SEC has always paid players albeit under the table. Now with NIL and everything in the open, we have lost our advantage money wise. From here on out, it will come down to roster talent, development, and gameday prep and coaching.
 

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Here is the main factor; the SEC has always paid players albeit under the table. Now with NIL and everything in the open, we have lost our advantage money wise. From here on out, it will come down to roster talent, development, and gameday prep and coaching.
All very good points.
As the Ol' Ball Coach would say - "You have to coach 'em up" - or something like that.
And your point about development is also important - you can have all the talent in the world on your roster and they could end up not playing up to their potential.
There are many examples of coaches who inspire players to play beyond their physical limitations.
It's the talent acquisition side which has changed over the years as college football in general has undergone changes.
Don't forget that many years ago, TV broadcasts were limited to games within a region.
The south always had and still has more talent at the HS level than other regions.
But in years past, these players were only exposed to regional teams, so while they may have gotten paid, the competition was between regional schools - Auburn vs. Alabama vs. Georgia, etc.
Around the 90's is when there was more of a national exposure of college teams, so now HS players were exposed to teams outside their own region.
Recruiting staffs expanded - analysts were hired - in general more TV revenue meant more spending.
And who had the money also changed - Phil Knight started making his money when Jordan signed with Nike, and son after is when money started flowing into Oregon.
But it's also not just that NIL is out in the open - it's that after years of greed from the power brokers that left the players with no money - they started going to the courts to get their share.
Now after losing all the court cases, the NCAA now has no way of enforcing anything - if you haven't been paying attention, apparently the transfer portal is now obsolete.
With no rules, there is now no hope for competitive balance.
 
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We got our Smith already in Brown. He is a 5 star who will do great things like Smith.
Other than the fact that they are both receivers, they don't have a whole lot in common. Brown has his own, unique, skill set, but Smith is a good 4-5 inches taller and 40 or so pounds heavier.

The last time I saw Smith in person was at a UF 7-on-7 the summer before his senior year of high school, and even though the Mainland cornerback (Mincey) held him in check for most of the game (Smith's teammate JoJo Trader was actually more effective in that game), you could still look at Smith and see a future NFL player. The way he moved at that size. He is one of one. That's no offense to Brown, that's just reality.
 

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If this kid is being honest with himself, he should realize that Lagway is a proven star in the making that can get him the ball, while Sayin has not proved anything at the College level. Of course, if he is happy at OSU, then money or QB might not make much of a difference.