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Five Fast Thoughts: Opps! Dan did it again

October 3, 2021
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Normally our Five Fast Thoughts takes a look at Florida's performance after a single game. This time around though we are focusing on the state of the program after Dan Mullen’s Gators suffered their fifth loss in the last eight games.

1) On Saturday night, for only the second time in 35 years Florida lost to Kentucky in football.

Five Fast Thoughts: Opps! Dan did it again

1,190 Views | 10 Replies | Last: 1 mo ago by cyclogator
Go Gators TJ
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That hits like a brick. The thing is Spurrier isn't coming back and Mullen isn't Spurrier. What do we do?

He has to make some changes or our administration needs to step in and make them for him.

Dan the Man
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He's not going to get fired off of that loss to Kentucky but it has to put him on the hot seat where another bad loss is the beginning of the end.

We have some fans who are pretending Kentucky is a really good team. Look at their three wins before us and the scores.

They were barely getting by bad teams. We crapped the bed. Or Mullen crapped the bed.
JayM
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My take on the Kentucky game is that we were clearly the better team, better players and better scheme, and were derailed by penalties. Which is coaching but very fixable it would seem to me. No reason to panic.

Last season doesn't count in my book. It was just a weird year.

It's very disheartening to hear this from Mark though because he knows a lot more than we do about what's really going on and seems to be generally level headed about things. So, his opinion gives me pause..

I still feel like we are looking at a bright future. We are one good recruiting class away from being really fun to watch. We some really good QBs coming along.

But, if Mark's take is closer to reality, then we could very well be on our way to where FSU is now. It's a long way down for us because we are not going to get a better coach or coaching staff than we have right now. Even if we did, we are going to fall so far in the transition they won't survive it. On top of that, in part because of the nasty way this fanbase treats its coaches and players, it's just not that desirable of a job. We are going to get a coach that wants the money, not one that cares. Chances are it's not going to work...

At least, if it goes this way, I'll have my Saturdays back!
Mark Wheeler
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I don't think in any way, shape, or form that a Mullen-led program could even remotely approach what is going on at FSU right now. He is too good of a coach, developer of talent, and game day play-caller (yes, I still believe that even after the UK game).

Florida would never fall to those depths under Mullen.

Ever.

I do believe that four years in, we can start to legitimately question if UF can be a consistent CFP contender under Mullen.

The results so far say that the answer is no.

Anyone saying otherwise is basing their opinion on what they hope can happen, not on what has happened to this point.
UFgator52-20
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JayM said:



I still feel like we are looking at a bright future. We are one good recruiting class away from being really fun to watch. We some really good QBs coming along.


We are more than 1 class away.

We need to rebuild at receiver. I don't see any speed or playmakers out there.

We need to get better on our offensive line and in the secondary.

What we really need is about 2 top 5 classes in a row.
Bd489
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I think we have talented receivers, we don't hit them in stride or throw deep balls. It's like judging the receivers Frank's had based on his deficiencies. Need better qb play to judge the receivers.
JayM
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Mark Wheeler said:

I don't think in any way, shape, or form that a Mullen-led program could even remotely approach what is going on at FSU right now. He is too good of a coach, developer of talent, and game day play-caller (yes, I still believe that even after the UK game).

Florida would never fall to those depths under Mullen.

Ever.

I do believe that four years in, we can start to legitimately question if UF can be a consistent CFP contender under Mullen.

The results so far say that the answer is no.

Anyone saying otherwise is basing their opinion on what they hope can happen, not on what has happened to this point.
I did not mean we might be headed to FSU type slide with Mullen but we might be without Mullen. The transition would be brutal and it's very likely the new coach will be a step down.
outofsight
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JayM said:

Mark Wheeler said:

I don't think in any way, shape, or form that a Mullen-led program could even remotely approach what is going on at FSU right now. He is too good of a coach, developer of talent, and game day play-caller (yes, I still believe that even after the UK game).

Florida would never fall to those depths under Mullen.

Ever.

I do believe that four years in, we can start to legitimately question if UF can be a consistent CFP contender under Mullen.

The results so far say that the answer is no.

Anyone saying otherwise is basing their opinion on what they hope can happen, not on what has happened to this point.
I did not mean we might be headed to FSU type slide with Mullen but we might be without Mullen. The transition would be brutal and it's very likely the new coach will be a step down.


Do we take a chance on being great or terrible with a new coach or play it safe and know we can be a little above average with 9 or 10 wins with Mullen but not really a threat to be a great team?
Bd489
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I would be inclined to keep Mullen and wait for the next elite coach to evoke available. In the interim force him to make staff changes and see if that can help him become a more complete coach.
cyclogator
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We are paying Mullen 7.6M a season but he isn't worth that type of money. The list of coaches who can come in to Florida and go 32-11 isnt a really short list. Whether or not someone wants to keep or dump Mullen is irrelevant to the fact that Mullen isn't living up to the expectations that comes with a 7.6M price tag. I don't think Stricklin will do anything this season no matter what happens unless Mullen has a few more press conference blunders like last season, a recruiting violation and/or tries to start another brawl (vandy mizzou coming up...who knows).

The notion that we are better off with Mullen has no basis.
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