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April 2, 2021
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With the help of NFL Draft Bible draft analyst Ryan Roberts Inside the Gators takes a closer look at how several former Florida football players performed during Wednesday's Pro Day and where they project to be taken in the draft.

I read where a scout said that no one moves up or down 2-3 rounds based on their Pro Day, but did anyone really help or hurt themselves on Wednesday?

Roberts: Pro Days do two things: confirm what you saw on film and get players on the radar late. Players like Kadarius Toney and Kyle Pitts just reaffirmed the athleticism that they showed on film. For a player like Trevon Grimes, who tested out of the gym, some will go back and take a look to see if they missed something in terms of long speed and ability to take the top off the defense with regularity. It absolutely helps him if teams think it translates onto the field. I was impressed with the numbers I saw from Shawn Davis. I did not expect to see the lower body explosiveness that he showed on Wednesday. Marco Wilson had an absurd day and should be looked as the biggest "winner". It changes the lasting image of him and gets the shoe image out of your head. His film has been very uneven during his career, but this type of athleticism can cause teams to bet on his upside. I was expecting a little better showing from Kyree Campbell, especially at 287 pounds. That was not a great look for him. 

This year, more than any other, are 40 times being discounted a bit? 12 players ran a sub 4.4 at last year's Combine. Over 10 players ran a sub 4.4 during Wednesday's Pro Days at Florida, LSU, Auburn, Kentucky, and Notre Dame. Do those public numbers mean less since all the players aren't being timed on the same surface?

Roberts: The times released by the media are discounted for sure. The numbers shared amongst NFL teams are handled similarly as they always are. While being timed by the scouts themselves, they are closer to what a typical official time would be. The best part about the Combine, besides the legitimacy of times, is that all the players are in the same situation, in the same environment. Different surfaces, weather conditions, etc. do affect the consistency of the testing. That is the context that evaluators need to consider.

When a player is discussed as often as Kyle Pitts, people tend to start to try to find holes in their game just to take a contrary view. That hasn't happened here, he is universally thought of as a generational type of talent. What are your thoughts on him? 

Roberts: Pitts is a top-five player in the 2021 NFL Draft regardless of position. What he can do as a mismatched piece from multiple positions is absurd. People tried to nitpick his ability to work inline as a blocker. While it will never be his calling card, he has more than enough effort and solid positioning to be effective in that area. 

What is his draft ceiling and floor?

Roberts: From the sound of it, the ceiling is Atlanta at No. 4. It is hard to imagine that he is going to fall out of the top ten. To be safe, the Eagles at No. 12 would be the absolute floor. 

That brings us to Kadaruis Toney. What is the book on him? 

Roberts: Toney is firmly in the late first-early second-round conversation. He is an explosive playmaker who affects a defense every time he has the ball in his hand. He saw great development as a wide receiver during the 2020 season that has teams excited for future development. 

Could he sneak into the first round?

Roberts: It is very possible. Teams fall for speed and these types of playmakers who can affect a defense in so many ways. I'd say that the second round is more likely but you can't count out a team taking him in the first. Teams who can project a little more moving forward will be more comfortable with Toney. The biggest question is what will be the immediate return as a wide receiver. 

He really only had this one year of great production. Is that a concern?

Roberts: Anytime a player only has one big year of production it raises some eyebrows. Context does matter, however. More troubling for Toney's case is durability. That was a crux in his development as a player throughout his career.

There was a tweet where an unnamed scout said that there are worries that he is more serious about his music than he is football. Have you heard those concerns?

Roberts: I have not heard that concern about Kadarius Toney, no. I have heard it from several other players but not in his case. Will be interesting to monitor moving forward. 

At one time early to midseason mock drafts had Kyle Trask projected as a first-rounder, before he began to fall late in the season. While he certainly isn't in the mix in the group of top-five quarterback prospects, but where does he stand now?

Roberts: I have him ranked as my sixth-ranked quarterback with a Day Two grade. There are some limitations to his game but a team who is comfortable with a pure pocket passer with enough movement within the pocket, will be interested. I gave an early comp to Nick Foles on Trask and I still like that comparison from a playstyle perspective. 

What are his positives and negatives?

Roberts: Trask is quick and decisive in his decision making, projecting great control of the offense. He has an outstanding and prototypical frame for the next level. He is a tough kid who possesses leadership qualities that are so vital at the position. There are limitations outside of structure and in terms of arm strength. When he gets into trouble, he has little ability to extend and make something out of nothing. His deep ball is solid but he really struggles to drive the football to the intermediate part of the field. The ball seems to die often before the target.

What would be an ideal situation for him?

Roberts: An ideal situation would be a team like the New Orleans Saints and New England Patriots who have coaches who have shown the ability to maximize players' strengths. There is a reality where Trask can be successful. Fit is just going to matter tremendously for him. 

Marco Wilson tested off the charts on Wednesday but really had an up-and-down Florida career, capped off by a not-so-great 2020 season. What is the book on him and where does he project?

Roberts: Even with the outstanding testing, Day Three still seems like the most likely outlook for Wilson. Athleticism has never been in question but the film leaves a lot to be desired. That type of testing does make it a lot easier for a team to bet on, however. 

Stone Forsythe struggled with speed rushers up until his senior season but really came on last year. Is he flying a bit under the radar? What is his draft range in your opinion?

Roberts: Forsythe is starting to get some buzz from some respected offensive line evaluators. He has a massive frame and is a sound athlete for the position. There are some limitations as far as flexibility in pass protection and lack of leverage in the run game but he is able to frame well as a blindside protector. Forsythe has a floor as a swing tackle at the next level and could develop as a starter in the right situation. 

Thoughts on the following players including round projections.

  • Trevon Grimes

Big-bodied pass catcher and dependable. Not the athlete on film that he tested as. Round 4-6

  • Brett Heggie

Battle-tested and physical. Moves a little better than you'd anticipate. Should be able to backup multiple positions. Round 5-7

  • TJ Slaton

He is a two-gap nose who is a load to handle upfront. He does not bring anything against the pass. Early down contributor. Round 5-7.

  • Kyree Campbell

Campbell flashes on film but he's never put it all together. Testing does not help his cause. UDFA

  • Shawn Davis

Tested better than anticipated. He’s a scrappy player who should be special teams stalwart. Limitations in coverage. Round 5-7

  • Brad Stewart

Doesn't flash much on film. Looks the part but does not make much of an impact. Special teams will have to be emphasized for him to stick somewhere. UDFA

  • Donovan Stiner

Some flashes but not consistent enough. His ball skills are appealing. Developmental prospect. Round 6-7

 

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