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Offense: Grading the two-deep depth chart

January 7, 2019
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Today Inside the Gators staffers Kassidy Hill and Mark Wheeler take a closer look at Florida’s offensive two-deep depth chart as part of our 2018 season review series.

(Comments are courtesy of Kassidy Hill)

QUARTERBACK
Player Comment KH/MW
Feleipe Franks

The biggest transformation of the season, Franks showed his ability to take on a game plan, become a willing runner and leading this offense as he learned the playbook. He limited his mistakes and managed the games well, especially the back half of the season where he exploded.

Offense: Grading the two-deep depth chart

KassidyHill
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Mark and I obviously had differing opinions on the offensive line
Mark Wheeler
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KassidyHill said:

Mark and I obviously had differing opinions on the offensive line

I thought maybe you confused Florida with Alabama.

It is all just an opinion. You are a little more generous than I am with the grades.
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Mark Wheeler said:

KassidyHill said:

Mark and I obviously had differing opinions on the offensive line

I thought maybe you confused Florida with Alabama.

It is all just an opinion. You are a little more generous than I am with the grades.
No doubt, LOL!

Personally I would have given the overall OL a "B-" and probably the same for the individuals (though I think Buchanan was a "C / C+"). I would have given them a solid B if they were consistent, but they started slow and fell off in the Missouri game and multiple series through the season.

Not sure Jefferson would be "A" grade, if they did the should have gone to the NFL.....B+ at best for Jefferson and completely agree with Cleveland.

I think Mark is a bit too critical of Franks, he has his flaws, but he definitely has at least a "B-" type year. May not seem like much of a difference between a "C+" and "B-" but there is. Not sure you can go 10-3 with a "C+" quarterback with the #19 schedule in the country. Also, while I am optimistic about Jones, he did seem to have a fumbling issues; correct me if I am wrong, but he fumbled in each game he played in during the season right (3 snaps in bowl game not included)?

The only other area I would question would be the running backs, I would think "B-" for Scarlett and "B+" for Perine. I agree with the comments completely, but to giving Perine a "A+" seems to indicate that he was one of the more elite backs in the league and I do not think that is the case, In fact, I do not think he would be in the top 5 (which would be the "A" range) of the SEC.

Good write up, always good to see the differing opinions!
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Eric-UF said:

Mark Wheeler said:

KassidyHill said:

Mark and I obviously had differing opinions on the offensive line

I thought maybe you confused Florida with Alabama.

It is all just an opinion. You are a little more generous than I am with the grades.
No doubt, LOL!

Personally I would have given the overall OL a "B-" and probably the same for the individuals (though I think Buchanan was a "C / C+"). I would have given them a solid B if they were consistent, but they started slow and fell off in the Missouri game and multiple series through the season.

Not sure Jefferson would be "A" grade, if they did the should have gone to the NFL.....B+ at best for Jefferson and completely agree with Cleveland.

I think Mark is a bit too critical of Franks, he has his flaws, but he definitely has at least a "B-" type year. May not seem like much of a difference between a "C+" and "B-" but there is. Not sure you can go 10-3 with a "C+" quarterback with the #19 schedule in the country. Also, while I am optimistic about Jones, he did seem to have a fumbling issues; correct me if I am wrong, but he fumbled in each game he played in during the season right (3 snaps in bowl game not included)?

The only other area I would question would be the running backs, I would think "B-" for Scarlett and "B+" for Perine. I agree with the comments completely, but to giving Perine a "A+" seems to indicate that he was one of the more elite backs in the league and I do not think that is the case, In fact, I do not think he would be in the top 5 (which would be the "A" range) of the SEC.

Good write up, always good to see the differing opinions!
I can see your point about the line. As for Jefferson, and I guess the running backs as well, it was somewhat relative to what their production and how they performed meant to the team. The only thing I think we'd really disagree on is Perine. I think if he had not been splitting reps so evenly with Scarlett that he would be putting up close to the same numbers as the other elite backs in the SEC.
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I don't know about that....

Florida
  • Perine = 128 for 750 (5.9) and 6 TD (4.7% per touch)
  • Scarlett = 122 for 717 (5.9) and 4 TD (3.3% per touch)

Georgia
  • Swift = 155 for 1037 (6.7) and 10 TD (6.5% per touch)
  • Holyfield = 147 for 956 (6.5) and 7 TD (4.8% per touch)

Alabama
  • D Harris 126 for 771 (6.1) and 7 TD (5.6% per touch)
  • N Harris 102 for 679 (6.7) and 4 TD (3.9% per touch)

I'm not sure Perine would grade out higher than the 4 of them and that doesn't include Snell (UK) or T Williams (A&M). I like Perine, but he is not an elite running back, which is what an A+ would indicate. If he were "A+" he would be going to the NFL right now....I reminds me a lot of K Taylor form 2015 (who was running behind a horrible OL) and even he was a 5th round pick.
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Eric-UF said:

I don't know about that....

Florida
  • Perine = 128 for 750 (5.9) and 6 TD (4.7% per touch)
  • Scarlett = 122 for 717 (5.9) and 4 TD (3.3% per touch)

Georgia
  • Swift = 155 for 1037 (6.7) and 10 TD (6.5% per touch)
  • Holyfield = 147 for 956 (6.5) and 7 TD (4.8% per touch)

Alabama
  • D Harris 126 for 771 (6.1) and 7 TD (5.6% per touch)
  • N Harris 102 for 679 (6.7) and 4 TD (3.9% per touch)

I'm not sure Perine would grade out higher than the 4 of them and that doesn't include Snell (UK) or T Williams (A&M). I like Perine, but he is not an elite running back, which is what an A+ would indicate. If he were "A+" he would be going to the NFL right now....I reminds me a lot of K Taylor form 2015 (who was running behind a horrible OL) and even he was a 5th round pick.

I think you are narrowing your focus when considering Perine to just rushing production. He was used in so many other ways. He was great at picking up blitzes and in pass protection and was as good as anyone in the conference catching the ball out of the backfield. While Scarlett had a solid season, I thought it was pretty obvious that the offense seem to click on all cylinders when Perine was on the field.
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upstateg8tor said:



I think you are narrowing your focus when considering Perine to just rushing production. He was used in so many other ways. He was great at picking up blitzes and in pass protection and was as good as anyone in the conference catching the ball out of the backfield. While Scarlett had a solid season, I thought it was pretty obvious that the offense seem to click on all cylinders when Perine was on the field.
Yes he was, but grades are not measured by just his comparison to the other gator running backs. The RB's at Georgia and Alabama and pretty much every program use their backs in all areas, not just handing it off, that is part of the RB position.

Perine did not have a "A+" year, if he did he would a Top 3 back in the conference (and he is not). He was good for us and he was better than Scarlet...but he was not an elite back and that is why he is coming back for another year because he has areas he needs to improve if he wants to improve to be good enough to play in the NFL.

Scarlet needs to come back and develop more, but I suspect he realized that he would be #2 on the depth chart (maybe even #3 as I suspect Pierce is going to progress significantly) and as a result where he is right now might be his best chance. Scarlet was a "B-" back this year and will likely get drafted in a 6th or 7th round.

Perine, if he were to leave now, would probably be a 5th or 6th round pick based on the last draft report I saw on him, which is what you would expect from a B / B+ back.
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KH....i wish you graded my papers in school.
KassidyHill
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TJWarren said:

KH....i wish you graded my papers in school.
Haha I know, I have a hard time giving them bad grades. I don't mind saying stuff but for some reason when I have to put the grade on it, I start to feel bad!
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I respectfully disagree with you about Perine... in my opinion I think Perine is more versatile... Holyfield I believe is a stronger runner. He is a beast but I don't believe that you can use Holyfield in all the ways we use Perine... Swift I believe is versatile but he's not as strong a runner as Perine..

If I'm a general manager out of all the running backs you named I would probably take Perine over the guys you listed..

I could be wrong cause Mullen's offense makes everyone look like a shiny new penny. I'll take Perine all day..
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