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Déjà boo or separated at birth - comparing Napier and Sumrall

Mark Wheeler

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This can be referred to as Déjà vu (or Déjà boo) or separated at birth, but Jon Sumrall and Billy Napier had eerily similar numbers through their first four years as a head coach.

When you get to the very bottom, keep in mind that statistics can be skewed depending on how the game is going. Do you get to run the ball and kill the clock because you are winning big? Is your pass defense numbers skewed because you are ahead and the other team has to pass to play catch-up?


CategoryBilly NapierJon Sumrall
Age when hired by UF4243
# of seasons a head coach44
Overall W/L Record40-1242-11
W/L Record in Conference Games27-528-4
W/L Record vs Ranked Teams2-31-6
W/L Record vs Unranked Teams38-941-5
Number of One Score Games1917
W/L Record in One Score Games16-3 (84.2%)13-4 (76.5%)
Times Scored 35 or More Points2418
Times Held to 21 or Less Points1114
Blowouts (Times Won by 21 or More Points1313
Blown out (Times Beaten by 21 or More Points25
# of Weeks Ranked in the AP Top 25105
W/L Record vs teams that finished the season with a Winning Record (Teams finishing 6-6 weren't counted)19-919-9
Total Offense Average over Four Seasons40th56th
Rushing Offense Average over Four Seasons22nd66th
Passing Offense Average over Four Seasons79th55th
Total Defense Average over Four Seasons50th30th
Rushing Defense Average over Four Seasons84th32nd
Passing Defense Average over Four Seasons24th50th
 

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This can be referred to as Déjà vu (or Déjà boo) or separated at birth, but Jon Sumrall and Billy Napier had eerily similar numbers through their first four years as a head coach.

When you get to the very bottom, keep in mind that statistics can be skewed depending on how the game is going. Do you get to run the ball and kill the clock because you are winning big? Is your pass defense numbers skewed because you are ahead and the other team has to pass to play catch-up?


CategoryBilly NapierJon Sumrall
Age when hired by UF4243
# of seasons a head coach44
Overall W/L Record40-1242-11
W/L Record in Conference Games27-528-4
W/L Record vs Ranked Teams2-31-6
W/L Record vs Unranked Teams45-241-5
Number of One Score Games1917
W/L Record in One Score Games16-3 (84.2%)13-4 (76.5%)
Times Scored 35 or More Points2418
Times Held to 21 or Less Points1114
Blowouts (Times Won by 21 or More Points1313
Blown out (Times Beaten by 21 or More Points25
# of Weeks Ranked in the AP Top 25105
W/L Record vs teams that finished the season with a Winning Record (Teams finishing 6-6 weren't counted)19-919-9
Total Offense Average over Four Seasons40th56th
Rushing Offense Average over Four Seasons22nd66th
Passing Offense Average over Four Seasons79th55th
Total Defense Average over Four Seasons50th30th
Rushing Defense Average over Four Seasons84th32nd
Passing Defense Average over Four Seasons24th50th
You are certainly correct Mark. Do you know if Jedd Fisch was ever contacted?
 

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Just when i said i would not complain anymore. From a analytics standpoint it's going to be similar results. Unless Sumrall brings in a serious OC that really is innovative and can move the ball. This is really a ole boy got to see his staff hires.
 

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Just when i said i would not complain anymore. From a analytics standpoint it's going to be similar results. Unless Sumrall brings in a serious OC that really is innovative and can move the ball. This is really a ole boy got to see his staff hires.
It is time to quit whining and support our coach.
 

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The big difference I see is the staff. Sumrall hired the OC of the year and a very capable DC.
I agree Sumrall hired better than Napier but the bar is so low in that regard.

At least he's got an OC but, although highly regarded, doesn't have much of a resume to so for it. The OL coach from Penn State is totally legit. That's a huge hire.

The DC is an old friend who was out of work. It be great and I hope it works well but it stinks on the surface.
 

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Have you changed your mind if Sumrall is like Napier?
The numbers above aren't my opinion of the two; they are their actual numbers, which look eerily similar.

I believe personality and approach-wise, they look to be vastly different to this point.

Will Sumrall succeed where Napier failed? I have no idea. Neither does anyone else. We'll all find out together.